[1/3] Hi, I’ve read the discussion about tagging MCD on your (fantastic!) blog which gets me thinking about the fic I’m writing. The discussion focused on stories with character death as a plot twist. But what if the plot twist of my fic is ‘this character is not actually dead’?

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[2/3] You could say it is a fic with unreliable narrators. At first the characters act as if each other is dead, but later it is revealed that no one is actually dead and they are just pretending, and readers learn about why they are pretending.

[3/3] I feel like putting on an MCD tag will be inaccurate and dishonest because no one actually dies. But going without the tag may upset some readers because readers are supposed to think that the characters are dead for at least 1/3 of the fic? How would you (or anyone who’s willing to chime in) tag in this case??


I’ve never written this kind of fic before, so I’m not very familiar with the available tags, but I seem to remember one about “temporary character death” – that might work?

What can the rest of you advise? I think there might be other useful tags I just can’t think of / don’t know of. 

Thank you for asking this! I appreciate how this blog lets us get into nuance.

Think of it as about protecting emotions. I avoid the ‘main character death’ tag because I don’t want to deal with the way it makes me feel. Your fic is going to drag me through that emotional journey. Yes, there will be relief after, but I still have to watch characters grieve and I DON”T WANT TO.

If your fic is going to make the reader deal with the emotions associated with a tag, even if the tag isn’t totally accurate, people will appreciate that tag being used. 

You can add another tag saying, ‘but it’s a bit more complicated than that,’ or ‘see end note for more information,’ if you want to avoid anyone feeling let down by the tag. For other tags, like ‘fake dating,’ which people often search for, adding additional information might be important. Someone could read and then be annoyed that it’s not quite what they were expecting. But few people are going to be upset that you made them TOO safe. Unless people really like reading about dead characters …

Right, I search out much weirder things. I’m sure there are people who find it cathartic.

Anyways: glad you asked, I’d love for you to tag, the fic would still make me cry even if everyone was alive at the end.

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benito-cereno:

Okay, so:

Latin has this word, sic. Or, if we want to be more diacritically accurate, sīc. That shows that the i is long, so it’s pronounced like “seek” and not like “sick.”

You might recognize this word from Latin sayings like “sic semper tyrannis” or “sic transit gloria mundi.” You might recognize it as what you put in parentheses when you want to be pass-agg about someone’s mistakes when you’re quoting them: “Then he texted me, ‘I want to touch you’re (sic) butt.’”

It means, “thus,” which sounds pretty hoity-toity in this modren era, so maybe think of it as meaning “in this way,” or “just like that.” As in, “just like that, to all tyrants, forever,” an allegedly cool thing to say after shooting a President and leaping off a balcony and shattering your leg. “Everyone should do it this way.”

Anyway, Classical Latin somewhat lacked an affirmative particle, though you might see the word ita, a synonym of sic, used in that way. By Medieval Times, however, sic was holding down this role. Which is to say, it came to mean yes.

Ego: Num edisti totam pitam?

Tu, pudendus: Sic.

Me: Did you eat all the pizza?

You, shameful: That’s the way it is./Yes.

This was pretty well established by the time Latin evolved into its various bastard children, the Romance languages, and you can see this by the words for yes in these languages.

In Spanish, Italian, Asturian, Catalan, Corsican, Galician, Friulian, and others, you say si for yes. In Portugese, you say sim. In French, you say si to mean yes when you’re contradicting a negative assertion (”You don’t like donkey sausage like all of us, the inhabitants of France, eat all the time?” “Yes, I do!”). In Romanian, you say da, but that’s because they’re on some Slavic shit. P.S. there are possibly more Romance languages than you’re aware of.

But:

There was still influence in some areas by the conquered Gaulish tribes on the language of their conquerors. We don’t really have anything of Gaulish language left, but we can reverse engineer some things from their descendants. You see, the Celts that we think of now as the people of the British Isles were Gaulish, originally (in the sense that anyone’s originally from anywhere, I guess) from central and western Europe. So we can look at, for example, Old Irish, where they said tó to mean yes, or Welsh, where they say do to mean yes or indeed, and we can see that they derive from the Proto-Indo-European (the big mother language at whose teat very many languages both modern and ancient did suckle) word *tod, meaning “this” or “that.” (The asterisk indicates that this is a reconstructed word and we don’t know exactly what it would have been but we have a pretty damn good idea.)

So if you were fucking Ambiorix or whoever and Quintus Titurius Sabinus was like, “Yo, did you eat all the pizza?” you would do that Drake smile and point thing under your big beefy Gaulish mustache and say, “This.” Then you would have him surrounded and killed.

Apparently Latin(ish) speakers in the area thought this was a very dope way of expressing themselves. “Why should I say ‘in that way’ like those idiots in Italy and Spain when I could say ‘this’ like all these cool mustache boys in Gaul?” So they started copying the expression, but in their own language. (That’s called a calque, by the way. When you borrow an expression from another language but translate it into your own. If you care about that kind of shit.)

The Latin word for “this” is “hoc,” so a bunch of people started saying “hoc” to mean yes. In the southern parts of what was once Gaul, “hoc” makes the relatively minor adjustment to òc, while in the more northerly areas they think, “Hmm, just saying ‘this’ isn’t cool enough. What if we said ‘this that’ to mean ‘yes.’” (This is not exactly what happened but it is basically what happened, please just fucking roll with it, this shit is long enough already.)

So they combined hoc with ille, which means “that” (but also comes to just mean “he”: compare Spanish el, Italian il, French le, and so on) to make o-il, which becomes oïl. This difference between the north and south (i.e. saying oc or oil) comes to be so emblematic of the differences between the two languages/dialects that the languages from the north are called langues d’oil and the ones from the south are called langues d’oc. In fact, the latter language is now officially called “Occitan,” which is a made-up word (to a slightly greater degree than that to which all words are made-up words) that basically means “Oc-ish.” They speak Occitan in southern France and Catalonia and Monaco and some other places.

The oil languages include a pretty beefy number of languages and dialects with some pretty amazing names like Walloon, and also one with a much more basic name: French. Perhaps you’ve heard of it, n’est-ce pas?

Yeah, eventually Francophones drop the -l from oil and start saying it as oui. If you’ve ever wondered why French yes is different from other Romance yeses, well, now you know.

I guess what I’m getting at is that when you reblog a post you like and tag it with “this,” or affirm a thing a friend said by nodding and saying “Yeah, that”: you’re not new

this is all amazing, but I’m now waiting for people to start reblogging posts with the additional comment “SIC”.

Or in other words, sic transit gloria mundi.

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conner treating jon like his baby brother until he remembers that he’s superman’s clone and just grabbing john and going ‘hey kid i’m your father now’ and jon calls him dad 2 sometimes because it makes clark sigh really loudly.

lois thinks the entire thing is hilarious

conner waking up in a cold sweat and calling tim like “tim im only 19 i don’t know how to take care of a baby! jon’s so impressionable what am i gonna do?” and tim is just not even fazed he’s like “idk conner you can’t do a worse job than clark did with you right? just make sure he doesn’t run off to hawaii and get a piercing he’ll be fine”

Prestigious U.S. colleges won’t reject students who protest guns

anti-capitalistlesbianwitch:

Many school districts officials have threatened to suspend high school students who take part in nationwide gun control walkouts and other demonstrations called by survivors of the mass shooting that killed 17 people at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland. Such disciplinary action can sometimes hurt a student’s chances of getting into a preferred college.

The student-led #NeverAgain movement launched after the Feb. 14 rampage has reshaped the long-running gun control debate almost overnight and could influence the U.S. midterm elections.

“Yale will NOT be rescinding anyone’s admission decision for participating in peaceful walkouts for this or other causes, regardless of any high school’s disciplinary policy,” Hannah Mendlowitz, a senior assistant director of admissions and recruitment at Yale University, wrote on Friday in a blog post.

“I, for one, will be cheering these students on from New Haven,” Mendlowitz said.

In addition to Yale, more than 40 universities, including Brown, Dartmouth and the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT), have issued statements supporting prospective scholars who may heed the calls of the Parkland survivors and risk school disciplinary action by joining protests.

Someone’s put together this Google Doc as a resource: Admissions Offices w/ statements re: student discipline for #NeverAgain protests

National Association for College Admission Counselling blog post: Student Activism and the Admission Process

Prestigious U.S. colleges won’t reject students who protest guns

caramelmachete:

Can anyone distract me from my shitty situation at home and send me funny or happy or fluffy bat stuff? Cute animals also accepted.

Fanon Tim (who frequently delights me):

Tim hides all his snacks, because all his siblings are unrepentant thieves. He uses tiny, out of the way hidey holes, because the worst offenders are giant lugs.

Given that he snacks the most when he is most sleep-deprived, this means that everyone is used to finding Tim crammed into weird places, arm stuck into the floor or wall, fast asleep, with snack crumbs around him.

Pre52 Dick (who almost ALWAYS delights me):

Damian grudgingly tells Steph and Tim about his nights off patrol, because he worries about Dick and wants someone watching him at all times. He isn’t aware that Dick is ALSO often off patrol those nights. He needs rest too! Also, it’s hard to get time away from his littlest brother without hurting the kid’s feelings.

This means that Steph and/or Tim have walked into (or accidentally spied on) FAR too many dates. More dates than they ever want to count. There was gross kissing WITH tongue! People far too close together, making gross sounds! Things they can never unsee! 

(Please note that I am saying “they,” but actually mean Tim. Steph is fine. She just allows the plural to make Tim feel he has support.)

I write in a fandom that canonically takes place in a historical time/setting where a 13yr old and a 22 yr old in an arranged marriage is perfectly normal. In my story they get married and kiss “on screen” but when it comes time to consmate the marriage, I “fade to black.” Do I need to warn for underage?

ao3commentoftheday:

Yes.

The ‘underage’ tag isn’t about historical accuracy or the way that society perceived things 300 years ago. It’s about now. A 13 year old getting with a 22 year old isn’t acceptable in the time period that your readers are located in, therefore you need to tag underage. 

The wiggle room here is the “fade to black” – what do you all think? I don’t read or write this genre so I’ll leave it to the experts.

Yes, please tag. 

But also, I want to remind people that tags aren’t signs that your story is bad. They aren’t marks against your story that you want to avoid.

Tags give the reader information. If you think a tag might be misleading, you can a freeform tag after, to give more information. But if you are comfortable with the content of your story, the tags are just saying the same thing.

Maybe you have no clue why I’m saying this. I worry about people saying ‘do I NEED to?’ I worry that tags are viewed as bad. If you don’t see things that way, I’m sorry for this.

I love tags so much, and it makes me so happy when people tag. Does anyone have ideas about how to destigmatize tagging? 

You’re improving your readers’ experience! Lowering the number of readers who come in expecting one thing, and get something else they weren’t bargaining for! Make it easier for interested readers to find you! 

They aren’t labels that say, “This story has Bad Things in it”

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aight fuckers I’m doing it I’m spending a full $4 to watch the first lotr movie, for the first time

so like I get, you know, power and malice and cruelty were ‘poured’ into the rings, but like. what did they actually put in those things. what fuckin gold gives a ring malice. why did the elves only get three.

holy shit it’s Agent Smith with pointy ears

this ring was made of weet-bix and nutri grain

it was in this moment, when all hope was lost, that issieldor-whoever took up his father’s sword –

I’M SORRY BUT I’M LAUGHING THE RING GIVES THE BIG BAD GUY LIKE DARK MAGIC AND A DEMON ARMY TO CONTROL BUT EESEELDOOR PUTS IT ON AND HE JUST TURNS INVISIBLE

holy shit I just experienced seven and a half minutes of introductory exposition by a mysterious lady who apparently thinks VERY little of hobbits

omg is this WHOLE movie exposition

it has been remarked by some that a hobbit’s only real passion

is for food

FOOD

a wizard is never late

says Ian McKellan, wishing he was Julie Andrews, Queen of Genovia

I know absolutely nothing about either of these two but I already fucking love their relationship it’s beautiful

OH SO BILBO’S THE FUCK THAT CAUSED ALL THOSE JUMP SCARES

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oh shit son he’s got the ring and the golem voice

okay so that’s pretty fucking cute

apparently every hobbit has an instinctual urge to hug Ian McKellen and honestly? same

holy shit guys I’m not even 20 minutes in I’m gonna have to make multiple posts

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Watching OP stumble ass over teakettle in love with this movie is amazing and these posts made my week

I want everyone to know that I am now following @alloverthegaf BUT only until their liveblogging LOTR movies is over. They are amazing but my dash is too full and it already has almost no posts from my fandoms and I NEED to stop following people I have nothing in common with but who are really likeable.

YES, there are SO MANY great people in the world. PLEASE BRAIN, I can not follow them all.

Anyways, if I’m still reblogging from them in several months, remind me I wasn’t supposed to get attached.