I don’t know why so many Tim Drake fans don’t like to acknowledge that he’s a relatively happy, emotionally healthy individual.
Tim is not a chronically depressed, vulnerable, insecure person that is in constant need of comfort and reassurance and validation.
I honestly don’t know where this image of him comes from. Why would you want to belittle a genuine strength of your character? One of Tim’s most amazing traits is how resilient he is, how he’s able to repair himself and keep it together even when facing great loss. We saw him suffer, and he worked hard to get through it and better himself and grow as a person. He bounced back to become a relatively happy, well-rounded person even after facing some of the most painful losses you can face.
I know people like to tease and laugh about his crying over Kon especially, but that was his best friend in the entire world, someone he loved more than most people he would ever know. I have to honestly wonder if most of you would not feel that same level of sadness and despair, slashy undertones or not.
I would hate to see what would happen if he ever had to lose Dick. People laughed over his reaction to losing Bruce. Goodness, how would people tease him for the awful way he’d cry and suffer over the loss of his brother? It’s not a weakness to mourn the loss of someone you love so much. It’s human.
I know he’s had periods of sadness. Of stress, and grief. Even of desperation inspired by that grief. But Tim is a remarkably independent, self-driven person. He loves his friends deeply, but he’s self-reliant and he often deals with pain on his own. This doesn’t mean that he secretly has to be suffering beneath the surface, or that he surely must be broken. No, sometimes an independent person is genuinely independent. Sometimes we simply do not need the reassurance and comfort of someone else’s embrace around our shoulders.
Doesn’t mean we don’t appreciate it. Doesn’t mean we don’t value it. Simply means we don’t need it, in the same way that a more emotionally open, extroverted person might. And honestly, when so many of his fans insist that him putting on a “strong face” must surely mean he’s broken, how is that supposed to make us feel? That it’s not enough to be strong, because you cannot be that strong legitimately, right? You have to visibly suffer and break down and expose some madness beneath it all, you have to cry each and every time or your emotions are suddenly not as honest.
No, sometimes I feel zero need to cry outwardly. Sometimes I retreat into my work and I filter out my grief that way. Sometimes I do have to cry out loud and expose a more vulnerable side of myself. But more often than not, I’m the workaholic settling in and working through my emotions on my own and preferring not to involve anyone else with my problems because I feel no particular need to. That doesn’t mean I am lying, deceiving anyone, or ‘faking it’ whatsoever. It simply means that I prefer to handle things on my own, and there’s nothing better or worse about that because it works for me, better than any other approach would. Everyone is different.
Tim is not as emotionally open as Dick is. For what few deceptions Dick may wear sometimes, he’s remarkably honest and straight-forward on the surface, while Tim chooses to obscure more of his emotions humbly. And I’m certain that both of them appreciate these differences in each other. It doesn’t make either one of them stronger or weaker than the other.
I will of course grant any Tim fans the right to interpret the character as they see fit, and to headcanon anything they like. It’s just that most of the headcanons and scenarios I see for him are painting a picture of someone walking wounded. While I would never deny that he does have emotional vulnerabilities, I would love to see more headcanons of how strong, driven, and independent he is. I think it’d only be fair to acknowledge what his own canon represents.
#Mainly I’m tired of seeing Tim as a vulnerable and wounded person that needs to be protected and saved from his own emotions #because as much as he’s suffered #he’s remarkably composed most of the time #and he prefers to deal with his emotions alone in almost every case #BY CHOICE #It doesn’t make him broken #and it doesn’t make him a liar.
YES YES YES!!!! Thank you SO MUCH for this post.
I think Tim gets a reputation as such because, truth be told, he did go through a bad period there for a while. But dear God, look what the boy had been through! In an insanely short period of time, he lost his girlfriend, his father, his best friend, his other best friend, and his father-figure. One of these losses alone would have been devastating. All of them so close together? Frankly, I think the boy deserves an award just for getting out of bed each morning. Not to mention that he lost his role as Robin, a job he’d loved and defined himself by – and adding insult to injury, was replaced by Damian, someone he can’t stand.
In case you’ve been keeping count, that’s three of the most common causes of extreme stress, right there:
Unstable family situation, conflict with family members: CHECK.
Difficulties at work, changes in career, getting fired, etc: CHECK.
And, oh yeah, what was that last one…
That’s right, death of a family member or close loved one.
CHECK.
CHECK.
(Just looking at this page makes me nauseous. UGH, be more sensationalistic, why don’t you, DC.)
CHECK.
CHECK.
And, CHECK.
(That’s Tim getting the news of Bart’s death.)
So wow, excuse Tim if he wasn’t exactly going through the best period in his life. Excuse him if he wasn’t exactly his cheerful, well-adjusted self for a while there. You think that makes him weak? Let’s see how you’d deal with something like that. I have no idea how Tim even managed to keep going and stay strong and functional and proactive. I think he’s a hero just for not curling up in bed and refusing to get out, because wow, that is an insane amount for anyone to go through, let alone someone so young.
But you know what? Tim didn’t let any of that beat him. God knows, he would’ve had every excuse in the world, but he didn’t. He kept on fighting and trying his best, and he got through that dark tunnel and came out stronger in the end. Weak? He’s so unbelievably strong I feel proud of him just thinking about it. He went through some of the worst pain a person can go through, and he suffered through it just like any human would, but he never let it break him. He learned from his mistakes, and he learned how to cope on his own, and in the end, he was stronger for it.
THAT’S what a true hero really is. It’s not about wearing a costume or beating up supervillains. It’s about taking whatever life throws at you, and never giving up. Never letting suffering warp you into something you’re not. Finding a way to believe in goodness no matter how bad things get.
Tim isn’t weak because of what he went through. He’s all the more impressive for it.
I kind of miss the heyday of Tim-gets-help-and-finally-faces-his-trauma fic, since it perfectly fit my own emotional wants and needs. But I get where you’re coming from. Now a days, there’s all this Angry Tim fic, and it drives me crazy.
No, authours! I don’t cope that way! I’m uncomfortable with anger!
When you empathize with Tim’s more independent aspects, all the people prying him open to let the repressed emotions out must be infuriating. All that fic is what got me into him, and has had a not-insignificant effect on my recovery.
Even I desire happy fic though. Post recovery fic. Ignore recovery completely fic. Fluff. Drama. I love this boy and want to see every aspects of him.
I want to see other versions of recovery. Dealing alone. Seeing a therapist. Writing a diary. Talking to one person, on his own initiative. Bouncing back pretty quickly, and not actually needing much of anything. (Just not the anger. I respect it, but am not ready to deal with that aspect of myself yet.)
@luanna255, I’d ask you not to refer to needing other people as weakness. Dealing with things quietly on your own is not inherently ‘stronger’ then working with someone else.
I know there are a lot of fic that uses Tim’s pain as a way to show how awesome and amazing and perfect his love interest is. Those can be infuriating. If fic that breaks Tim to make other characters look good is what bothers you, that makes perfect sense. But struggling to deal with your trauma, and needing help with it, isn’t weak. Openly showing your pain isn’t weakness.
Of course, retreating from others when in pain isn’t wrong either. Not showing or sharing isn’t a ‘bad’ way to deal. I don’t want to seem like that’s what I stand for.
TL;DR: This is a good post even if I don’t totally feel the same way. I have a little quibble with how the second poster worded things, I agree that we need a more varied fanon Tim.










