ao3commentoftheday:
pbjellieao3:
ao3commentoftheday:
That’s the sort of thing I wouldn’t say in a comment. That needs to come from someone with a relationship with the author who can have the kinds of conversations with them that need to be had.
That said, if you’ve noticed something I’d encourage you to reach out (from a place of love). Better to come from someone who has concerns and wants the writer to improve than for the writer to see their work panned on a blog post or an anti-rec list. But even then, a tumblr ask/message or a twitter DM or something would be the better place for it. Comments are too public on AO3.
Anyone else have some advice here? I’ve never encountered this myself.
And I get your point, but in this case, it was very clearly understood. And the vast majority of the readership understood that. And sometimes as readers we think we understand things more than we do. This particular work had an adult character (18) recovering from CSA who kept recreating the abuse. And it was brutal to read, but it was tagged as non-con. Somewhere between purity culture and the idea that nothing should ever be problematic, a reviewer decided to give their concrit that essential CSA character was a whore and that this story was devolving.
Too many reviewers do not understand the difference between a personal preference and actual constructive criticism.
If I write something from the perspective of a problematic character, (like Cartman, because I’m a SP writer), I’m not going to show him regretting his actions. He wouldn’t. His psychotic ass would be rationalizing as he went through the motions of whatever atrocity he wanted to do that day.
There also comes a point of where I’m, personally, tagging everything as E rated angst. I’m not going to go through and tag every little thing that could ever be interpreted as problematic in the tags. It ruins the story. If I have to say that in chapter six there’s an amputation when I already tagged for graphic violence, the weight of that falls on the reader. If I tagged for non-con I’m not going to tag again for dub con, or sex as a weapon. If I tagged for character death I am not going to tag the exact way that character dies. In the nicest possible way, if you need a plot summary before you read my works then you should probably not be reading them for your mental stability.
Fifty Shades of Grey is a rape fantasy, at best. And you know what, she’s free to have that fantasy. I’m not gonna ever read anymore of it, but I’m also not going to send her hate mail.
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This comes back to an earlier question of the blog of how much tagging is too much and how much is not enough. To me, indicating specific chapters is too much for tags, but depending on the story and the readership, perhaps a heads up in an author’s not at the top of the chapter would be appreciated. Ditto if there’s MCD, I wouldn’t tag which character dies. I’d do it like a typical season finale where everyone knows it’s coming but they don’t know who it’ll be.
I’ve seen some readers say they don’t look at tags at all and others say that tags are how they choose which fics to read. I’m curious how readers view the tagging discussion. What about other authors?
Thanks for your thoughts on this.
I only remember to look at tags if the author’s note or summary suggest the story might have a personal trigger.
Well, I almost always check for pairings, because I’m aro-ace and have a complicated relationship with romantic fic, but otherwise my eyes skim over them.
But I LOVE authour’s notes. If they say, “see end note for details,” I am incredibly grateful and check those end notes before reading. If they spoil plot points, I rejoice because I won’t be hitting them unprepared.
I’ve sent personal notes to authours asking them to spoil certain plot points so I can make sure I’ll be able to handle the fic.
Tags are a lifesaver. I don’t think you have to tag every single thing, but broad categorical warnings are REALLY important to me. And the details in the end notes, if you’re willing!
ESPECIALLY non-con. I’m willing to read non-con, but if it isn’t warned for, I don’t think YOU realize that it’s problematic. I really don’t want another fic where the victim ending up with their abuser is the happy ending. So that clear warning in the tags is important. Some people say if they end up together in the tags, and I love that, but I’m sure it upsets other people. That might be another thing for the end notes.
Now, on to my opinions about anons question! (I have many opinions 🙂
I have found myself in this situation twice. I usually steer clear of anything in the grey area of romance/abuse. Twice, though, the line blurred after multiple chapters of story, where I’d been commenting and building a rapport with the authour.
The first time, it was a last chapter reversal. I think the authour panicked about the depressing ending that was coming – survivor recovering and missing their abuser as they come to terms with what happened. So the main character ran away to his abuser, abuser did love him even while remaining a monster, happy ending!
In that situation, I didn’t say anything. The story was done. I left a comment thanking them for the story, and made no reference to the final chapter.
The second situation was more complicated.I started worrying about a relationship that was just starting to develop. For about three chapters, I left positive reviews, and included questions about how the authour saw the relationship. I was a bit worried about character A’s ability to consent, was the authour planning on addressing that? Character B is character A’s caregiver, some people might consider that an unbalanced power dynamic. Are you aware of that? My brother is mentally disabled, and character A reminds me of him a lot, there are certain things I couldn’t handle reading about. Are these specific things going to happen?
The authour was happy to discuss things with me. After those three chapters, I realized that she just did NOT get it. She was trying to write something consensual, and failing utterly. So I thanked her for the fic, mentioned that it was getting a bit uncomfortable for me, because of things previously discussed, and noped out.
I don’t think you should ever tell an authour that their fic is problematic or bad. ‘This thing was a bit too close to this OTHER thing, which I have a personal problem with. I’ll skip this story and enjoy your next one,’ might be okay if you have a relationship with them. Maybe.
It’s hard.